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this beakers failure to win republican support in the house for his plan the proposal on the fiscal cliff has embarrassed the speaker, but the speaker's failure means a solution to the fiscal cliff is, if they're going to be one, now resting squarely upon president obama. arsine to be vacationing president alone cannot propose legislation that wins majority support in both the house and senate, and the decision to go over the fiscal cliff now depends on his ability to successfulully negotiate and to forge a compromise that appeals to both republicans and the far left in mr. obama's party. the president met with senate majority leader harry reid this afternoon and talked with speaker boehner to begin anew that eort to reach compromise. >> averting this middle-class tax hike is not a democratic responsibility or republican responsibility. with their foes the american people have determined that governing is a shared responsibility between both parties in this congress laws can only pass with support from democrats and republicans, and that means nobody gets 100 percent of what they want. lo
this beakers failure to win republican support in the house for his plan the proposal on the fiscal cliff has embarrassed the speaker, but the speaker's failure means a solution to the fiscal cliff is, if they're going to be one, now resting squarely upon president obama. arsine to be vacationing president alone cannot propose legislation that wins majority support in both the house and senate, and the decision to go over the fiscal cliff now depends on his ability to successfulully negotiate...
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republicans say the president wants the country to go off the fiscal cliff to gain political points are lawmakers playing chicken with your taxes? >>> and a winter storm may be headed your way. who may be getting a white christmas and what it means for your holiday travels. we'll have all of that, coming up. good morning, everybody. welcome to early start. i'm alina cho in new york. >> and i'm dana bash in washington. john and zoraida are off. >> a developing story in afghanistan. an adviser to the afghan police has been shot and killed by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. the latest in the series of green on blue insider attacks and our pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins us live with details on that. good morning. how unusual is this? >> well, alana, sadly this is a story we've report sod often during the year, haven't we? the details on this attack are different in one respect. as far as we know this is a case where a woman, an afghan woman in a police uniform conducted this shooting and killing. a contractor in cab uhl police headquarters. the nato alliance has alread
republicans say the president wants the country to go off the fiscal cliff to gain political points are lawmakers playing chicken with your taxes? >>> and a winter storm may be headed your way. who may be getting a white christmas and what it means for your holiday travels. we'll have all of that, coming up. good morning, everybody. welcome to early start. i'm alina cho in new york. >> and i'm dana bash in washington. john and zoraida are off. >> a developing story in...
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people are ready to blame republicans for the problem if we go over the fiscal cliff. they are holding out for keeping tax rates down where the public has said tax rates should go up. way back before 2010, the public was saying it. there also behind in the image perspective. they are seen as the party of extremism and the summer of 2011 -- the summer did not engage deeply with the policy debates. they sniff out very early on -- the public of more sophisticated than some people think. there were no merits being used to make other political argument and people were very frustrated about that. nobody came of that debate looking good. that is when we started to see a wider opening in the gap of the leaders of the two political parties and the republican party has not overcome that image. they're playing a very similar strategy. >> how do you factor into your polls what the political workers call from game? you have to attribute that to get out the vote efforts. do you try to factor is that in before? >> it is one of the challenges. campaigns are using technology -- there i
people are ready to blame republicans for the problem if we go over the fiscal cliff. they are holding out for keeping tax rates down where the public has said tax rates should go up. way back before 2010, the public was saying it. there also behind in the image perspective. they are seen as the party of extremism and the summer of 2011 -- the summer did not engage deeply with the policy debates. they sniff out very early on -- the public of more sophisticated than some people think. there were...
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some fiscal cliff that is going to cause some horrible calamity. they are worried that everybody's taxes are going to go up, and of course they are worried voters aren't going to be too happy about that. they worry about its effects on the economy. a lot of people on both sides of the aisle who are committed to their philosophical points of view think that it's better to let this thing go into january and february and try and workout a good deal from their point of view, than to rush something that they don't feel would be that great. and, again, part of that is they don't know that the world is going to come to an end in january when all these taxes go up. and without that fear it's harder to get a deal, when both sides have to give up so much that they are so emotionally attached tow. kelly: w to. kelly: we were talking toeho ise president. and the president would like to get back here. the president and speaker boehner have been negotiating to find a deal that both sides could agree to. the "wall street journal" reported the president threatened
some fiscal cliff that is going to cause some horrible calamity. they are worried that everybody's taxes are going to go up, and of course they are worried voters aren't going to be too happy about that. they worry about its effects on the economy. a lot of people on both sides of the aisle who are committed to their philosophical points of view think that it's better to let this thing go into january and february and try and workout a good deal from their point of view, than to rush something...
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going over the fiscal cliff. he promoezed that we don't tax -- no tax increase until $400,000, instead of $250,000. he proposed -- he said he would be willing to go with the republican demands for entitlement cuts cutting colas on social security which i think is obnoxious and will not vote for under any circumstances. he made a lot of concessions, too many. the republicans showed, though, when they voted against cutting taxes for 99.8% of americans, because they wouldn't allow taxes to go up for people above $1 million, they showed that it's very difficult to do business this w them. >> you said the president made too many concessions. >> i think so. >> were you more a fan of the $250,000 and less than that or -- >> i'm more of a fan of the $250,000 but mainly, mainly i would not vote for a nickel in -- under any circumstances for a nickel in cuts to social security benefits. >> so when we look at that and there are those on the right that say i won't vote for a nickel in revenue and then you coming on saying i
going over the fiscal cliff. he promoezed that we don't tax -- no tax increase until $400,000, instead of $250,000. he proposed -- he said he would be willing to go with the republican demands for entitlement cuts cutting colas on social security which i think is obnoxious and will not vote for under any circumstances. he made a lot of concessions, too many. the republicans showed, though, when they voted against cutting taxes for 99.8% of americans, because they wouldn't allow taxes to go up...
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we do have this practical problem ten days from now of the fiscal cliff. i said republicans would be well advised to accept the fact that president obama won the election and minimize the damage that will be done by the tax increase that is coming. >> chris: you would go for the stripped down obama plan? >> i would go for what the speaker tried to do late last week and try to get the number up from $250,000. yes, there is going to be a tax increase on the wealthy. i would try to protect investments as much as possible. do the amt patch. have a reasonable deal on estate taxes. i'm a squish on this. got to make the best of a bad situation. i think what will happen incidentally is republicans will be faced on monday, on december 31 with having to vote on a much worse proposal than the one they didn't give speaker boehner the majority for. >> chris: the plan b. >> harry reid will pass through the senate on thursday or friday a tax hike on everyone over $250,000 and republicans will have the joyc choice on m, letting it come to a vote. i think the speaker proba
we do have this practical problem ten days from now of the fiscal cliff. i said republicans would be well advised to accept the fact that president obama won the election and minimize the damage that will be done by the tax increase that is coming. >> chris: you would go for the stripped down obama plan? >> i would go for what the speaker tried to do late last week and try to get the number up from $250,000. yes, there is going to be a tax increase on the wealthy. i would try to...
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about what will happen with the fiscal cliff and whether we'll go over it. it is unclear. >> brianna, can we expect any other lawmakers to like jump in and try to -- you mentioned harry reid. what about mitch mcconnell or someone, can we expect anybody else to do something besides the house speaker and the president? >> reporter: well, at this point i think the ball is really out of the court of president obama and house speaker john boehner. obviously something would have to get through the house, but we're definitely focusing on the senate. i will tell you talking to sources that it doesn't even appear that senate majority leader reid and senate minority leader mcconnell are talking. the discussions aren't under way yet. you talk to sources on the hill and you get the sense that reid is waiting for mcconnell to chime in and mcconnell is waiting for reid to chime in. so this is a bit of a standoff right now and we are waiting to see who is going to blink. that's really the question, who is going to blink first and the fact is we just don't know. >> brianna
about what will happen with the fiscal cliff and whether we'll go over it. it is unclear. >> brianna, can we expect any other lawmakers to like jump in and try to -- you mentioned harry reid. what about mitch mcconnell or someone, can we expect anybody else to do something besides the house speaker and the president? >> reporter: well, at this point i think the ball is really out of the court of president obama and house speaker john boehner. obviously something would have to get...
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ben bernanke's guy who coined the phrase fiscal cliff. he says if we fall off of it in seven or eight days, that's going to lead to yet another recession. >> well, and that's why, and that's why the president ask speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell and harry reid need to come back and make sure their membership -- boehner couldn't deliver the other day -- make sure the membership, and by the way, boehner may have to go with democrats plus a minority of republicans to get the job done. gregg: yeah. >> this is about the welfare of this country, not about the welfare of a political party. gregg: all right. brad, the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons why people are so incredibly gloomy about the future, and, you know, dick's making the point here when speaker john boehner can't even get his own party to follow him and put up a vote on his plan, i mean, aren't republicans equally to blame for the public's profound pessimism? >> well, we have a divided nation, that is for sure. this president has not done his job in leading, and had he done hi
ben bernanke's guy who coined the phrase fiscal cliff. he says if we fall off of it in seven or eight days, that's going to lead to yet another recession. >> well, and that's why, and that's why the president ask speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell and harry reid need to come back and make sure their membership -- boehner couldn't deliver the other day -- make sure the membership, and by the way, boehner may have to go with democrats plus a minority of republicans to get the job done....
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if this fiscal cliff is to be averted, it has to get through both the senate and house with some republican support. so you're hearing pessimism now on both sides. take a listen to a democratic and a republican senator and how they see the prospects of maybe going over the fiscal cliff. >> i feel that it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not. if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequence consequenceal act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in american history. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. he gets all the additional tax revenue for new programs and cuts the military, which democrats have been calling for for years. gets to blame republicans for it. >> reporter: so all of this blame, suzanne, that's obviously partly public posturing. when you hear this pessimism about maybe going over the fiscal cliff, you hear that be publicly and we hear that privately from sources. again the bail ll
if this fiscal cliff is to be averted, it has to get through both the senate and house with some republican support. so you're hearing pessimism now on both sides. take a listen to a democratic and a republican senator and how they see the prospects of maybe going over the fiscal cliff. >> i feel that it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not. if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequence consequenceal act of congressional irresponsibility in a long...
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why republicans say the president wants to go over the fiscal cliff. >>> and imagine someone breaking into your home and ransacking your christmas tree, stealing your electronics. meet the family who encountered a real life grinch and caught the thief on camera. it's an unbelievable story, and the family will join us live in this hour. good morning, everybody. on a christmas eve, welcome to "starting point." i'm alina cho in new york. da dana, good morning. >> good morning. alina. i'm dana bash in washington. it's christmas eve. "starting point" begins right now. >>> and our starting point, an american contractor in kabul shot and killed earlier this morning by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. it happened inside kabul's police headquarters, and it's the latest in a string of suspected green on blue attacks. pentagon correspondent barbara starr is working her sources, and she joins us from washington. barbara, we have seen a lot of these attacks. correct me if i'm wrong, this is the first time it's happened with a woman. >> reporter: i think that is absolutely correct, dana. u
why republicans say the president wants to go over the fiscal cliff. >>> and imagine someone breaking into your home and ransacking your christmas tree, stealing your electronics. meet the family who encountered a real life grinch and caught the thief on camera. it's an unbelievable story, and the family will join us live in this hour. good morning, everybody. on a christmas eve, welcome to "starting point." i'm alina cho in new york. da dana, good morning. >> good...
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physical cliff. >> we have gone over the cliff now, later, the fiscal cliff-you cannot negotiate with some of that does not want to negotiate. >> john boehner failed to get enough votes were planned beat that would raise taxes for people earning more than $1 million. the speaker, and the president left town without making a deal. >> i have passed leaders of congress to work together to create a deal to protect and employment for 2 million americans, protect middle america the middle income americans and also work on deficit reduction. >> the president solution would still leave red ink as far as the eye could see. and difficult for jobs. >> this is it difficult for the brink of perpetual gridlock. >> this is likely that we will go over the fiscal cliff and not and if we allow that to happen. would be the most concord consequential, terrible act of gridlock. >> president obama is in hawaii but could possibly cut his vacation short to hammer out a deal. >> thousands of nurses will walk off the job today at nine bay area hospitals. nurses with sutter health's alta bates summit medical ce
physical cliff. >> we have gone over the cliff now, later, the fiscal cliff-you cannot negotiate with some of that does not want to negotiate. >> john boehner failed to get enough votes were planned beat that would raise taxes for people earning more than $1 million. the speaker, and the president left town without making a deal. >> i have passed leaders of congress to work together to create a deal to protect and employment for 2 million americans, protect middle america the...
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host: how does social security factor into this fiscal cliff negotiation process? guest: the republicans put together a plan in the last few weeks to change the way the annual cost of living adjustment is calculated for social security beneficiaries. it is the annual increase in benefits that people get in their monthly payments, it is usually annual, this coming year for instance, next month in january they are scheduled to get a 1.7% increase in benefits. that is based on a government measure of inflation. for social security they use the consumer price index. there is a new measure of inflation that the government has been considering for a while. on average, it is a little bit lower. it reflects a lower level of inflation than what the government has been using up until now. on average they tell us that the kola would be about .03% less. last year the increase was 3.6%. that's the biggest effective of adopting this new measure of inflation that the republicans put on the table. the reason why we're focusing on this and a lot of groups have been focusing on this
host: how does social security factor into this fiscal cliff negotiation process? guest: the republicans put together a plan in the last few weeks to change the way the annual cost of living adjustment is calculated for social security beneficiaries. it is the annual increase in benefits that people get in their monthly payments, it is usually annual, this coming year for instance, next month in january they are scheduled to get a 1.7% increase in benefits. that is based on a government measure...
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one reason we are in the fiscal cliff is because a deal was made in the summer of 2011. for the sequester and all of that. on the assumption, an assumption that republicans would win and wouldn't be an issue. if you look at the broadest vision of this, this is a race that republicans should have won. but i agree. the primary process, 20 debates that degraded and hurt the brand. not the best set of candidates. did not put shining good light on the party. certainly hurt the brand. that was a race that should have been won and wasn't. a lot of tactical and strategic errors. >> doug: 15 seconds. >> the most important moment of the 2012 race from the republican side came before a vote was cast, before much money was raised. that was the series of potentially good candidates who didn't end up running, whether john thune or jeb bush or mitch daniels or ryan or rubio. group of candidates that might have been able to carry a stronger message without being burdened by what nina is speaking about. >> doug: that is it for the panel. stave tuned to see one awesome, truly awesome grad
one reason we are in the fiscal cliff is because a deal was made in the summer of 2011. for the sequester and all of that. on the assumption, an assumption that republicans would win and wouldn't be an issue. if you look at the broadest vision of this, this is a race that republicans should have won. but i agree. the primary process, 20 debates that degraded and hurt the brand. not the best set of candidates. did not put shining good light on the party. certainly hurt the brand. that was a race...
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and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and that would need democratic and republican support. now, all eyes on the senate because they will reconvene on the 27th, thursday. and senate majority leader harry reid, it is up to him, really, to cobble together something that can get some of that support. right now the white house is still supporting a threshold of $250,000 back to their initial starting point for tax rates going up for those making more than that. but you can imagine, hala, that's going to be very hard for some republicans, maybe even some democrats to sign on to. >> right. and for just about a week ago, it was common to hear a deal will be hammered out. over the last several days we're hearing more and more that potentially this is a reality for americans in eight days' time. your sources in the administration, is there a real concern among some of the people you're speaking with that indeed this fiscal cliff will become a reality? >> i thi
and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and that would need democratic and republican support. now, all eyes on the senate because they will reconvene on the 27th, thursday. and senate majority leader harry reid, it is up to him, really, to cobble together something that can get some of that support. right now the white house is still supporting a threshold of...
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president obama wants the country to fall off the fiscal cliff. >> we were gonna go over the cliff before, and now because it is what the president wants you cannot negotiate with someone who does not want to negotiate. >> reporter: boehner failed to get votes thursday, friday boehner and the president left town with no deal, each making a parting pitch. >> the president: i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that spreads tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for two million americans and lays the groundwork for further work on growth and deficient the city reduction. >> president's solution of raising tax rates could be red ink for as far as the eye can see. >> reporter: the partisan bickering has put the country on the brink of potential economic crisis. >> it is the first time that i feel it is more likely that we will go over the cliff than not. that, if we allow that to happen, it will be thekñg)p mot colossal consequential act of congressional responsibility in a long time. >> reporter: president obama is in hawaii for christmas. he
president obama wants the country to fall off the fiscal cliff. >> we were gonna go over the cliff before, and now because it is what the president wants you cannot negotiate with someone who does not want to negotiate. >> reporter: boehner failed to get votes thursday, friday boehner and the president left town with no deal, each making a parting pitch. >> the president: i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that spreads tax hike on middle class americans,...